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? prime minister maliki, i'd like to ask you the question about syria. why haven't you demanded that assad step down given the slaughter of his people? >> first of all, the prime minister and i discussed syria, and we share the view that when the syrian people are being killed or are unable to express themselves, that's a problem. there's no disagreement there. i have expressed my outrage in how the syrian regime has been operating. i do believe that president assad missed an opportunity to reform his government, chose the path of repression and has continued to engage in repressive tactics so that his credibility, his capacity to regain legitimacy inside syria, i think, is deeply eroded. it's not an easy situation. i expressed to prime minister maliki my recognition that given syria's on iraq's borders, iraq's in a tough neighborhood, that we will consult closely with them as we move forward. but we believe that international pressure, the approach we've taken along with partners around the world to impose tough sanctions and to call on assad to step down, a position that is increasingly
-moment is in the republican field. robert ford, the american ambassador to syria, this is the one i'm most proud of. he is, on this show, the ambadassador. robert ford went to hamma. he drove right along side the crowds of protesters demanding seer syrian authoritarian government step down. he met them with olive branchs. not the metaphor but actual olive branchs. the ambadassador had to leave syria and come back to the united states for consultations. things got too dangerous there. they are still dangerous. the united nations estimates that 4,000 people have been killed in syria just since march. then just today, a human rights group reported that 34 bodies were found dumped in a town square in western syria. also in syria today, the ambadassador, robert ford is back in syria as of this evening. this does not soften the support by the obama administration. hillary clinton met with exiled syrian opposition leader when she was in geneva today. america may not have a lot of levers to pull when it comes to ploem diplomacy with syria. hillary clinton gave a remarkable speech there. she gave a historic addres
changes in egypt, syria and the rest of the arab world? good day, i'm andrea mitchell coming to you live today from tel aviv as we broadcast live from israel this comes as a tumultuous time in u.s.-israeli relations. we've seen all of the pressure coming from the white house on israel as recently as this weekend at a crucial conference. the republican candidates are now beginning to weigh in. joining me now here in tel aviv is the opposition leader, tippy lively, head of the founder of the opposition party and also the former foreign minister. thanks for being with us. first of all you heard many of the criticisms, the pressure on israel at this conference. leon panetta and others. saying that israel has to do more to negotiate with the palestinians and that there needs to be a peace process in place before israel even contemplates any kind of military action against iran. >> i would love to make it clear. having an agreement between israel and the palestinians based on two states for two peoples is in the israeli interest. therefore i believe that we need to go back to the damn table. i
or others to take military action. >>> let's talk about syria. given the role the u.s. and nato played in protect civilians, do you think at some point nato or the united states and some coalition of the willing is going to have to go in there and protect civilians in syria? >> you know, i don't want to speculate as to what the conditions might be and raise alarm bells. i am, after all -- i'm not a president, but i'm looking for that job. i do believe that we should act very aggressively to try and encourage the dissidence within syria, to remove assad and to bring a more representative form of government. >> support them militarily if that's what's necessary? >> certainly support them covertly. we should support turkey and saudi arabia as they're putting pressure on syria. i won't rule out military support of some kind but i don't want to describe exactly what we might do paubecause the circumstances can change. but syria is very different than libya. it is the only key ally for iran, its route to the sea. a key satellite to iran. its link also with lebanon. so syria plays a key role
is getting serious about shutting down their attempt to be a nuclear power. >> turning to syria, there have been more massive protests. at least 19 people reportedly killed since those arab league monitors first got into syria earlier this week. the death toll is mounting. what do you project happening in syria? >> the international community will come down hard or syria. seeing what takes place when regimes resist the voice of the people. the people are now coming out by the thousands. syria is reacting by using force to suppress them. the result will be that this regime will be gone. we are seeing a continuation of the arab spring and this is one thing taking place in syria and i mighting is to the extent that iran continues to crack down in the fashion they have, given the economic conditions we will see a change in iranian policy in terms of not going forward with the nuclear program or see a change in regime. that's something they may have to be concerned about and should be. >> that is quite a projection for the new year. happy new year to you. >> same to you. >> thanks so much for al
carrying his body. >>> with outside monitors now in syria, demonstrators made sure their voices would be heard. amateur video shows tens of thousands taking to the streets reportedly calling for the execution of president bashar al assad. critics debated whether government tanks pulling back was just an attempt to mislead monitors. >> reporter: government security forces appear to fire tear gas at the crowds trying to stop them from heading to the city's main square for a mass demonstration. footage we cannot independently verify. even so, 70,000 protesters seem to have risked their lives to attend the rally against president assad. we want the president executed, they chant. spurred on by the arrival of arab league peace observers, who have come here to see if the regime is keeping its promise and ending its military crackdown of anti-government demonstrators. here they appear to be besieged by local residents on the streets. eager to show them the pools of blood spilled in the violent clashes with government forces. while the government itself appeared to be pulling out its tanks an
by syria's government continues without let up. human rights activists say at least six people were killed in fresh attacks by government forces yesterday. amateur video shows black smoke and flames and one syrian city after alleged shelling by the president's forces. arab league delegates arrived in syria thursday ahead of monitors who want to assess whether the government is complying to peace initiatives. there are reports coming in saying quote, terrorists, unquote, attacked security in damascus. state tv is describing it as a double suicide car bombing. a number of civilians have been killed. >>> here is your first look at other news going on. florida police cracked down a group of vandals, thanks to youtube. a video posted by the culprit showed video of them ransacking several stores. they brought in one teen for questioning who identified the rest of the suspects. >>> southern california's santa ana winds swept through yesterday hammering several neighborhoods. wind gusts 72 miles per hour were strong enough to rip trees from the ground and leave tractor-trailers overturned. wind wa
they do tests, we have been surprised by the facility in syria. >> use the facility that the north koreans built in syria. the u.s. didn't have a clue until they dropped photographs. >> you reported that the u.s. officials have have been war gaming this scenario for years. what would happen when he died and what would the transition be? they are putting it into action. what does it mean? >> almost every scenario from north korea collapse that people think of that seems credible start with kim jung il's death. some play out over nears and some over a shored e shorter period. we don't know how long this is going to take. until two years ago, what did the cia know about kim jong un? one picture. that's it. >> you brought it up. >> that is a big concern for china. it's what does real china in and it's one of the leverage points we have. the last thing they want is this flood of starving people. the contrast between north and south in 2006 with bill richardson down to south korea, i have been there and i have flown. i have never done the drive. the contrast with the primitive society. people us
and misplaced. so far no one claimed responsibility for the twin attacks that killed at least 40 people in syria today. officials say that car bombings targeted heavily guard security and intelligence in the capital of damascus. those attacks from one day after arab league observers arrived. they are in syria to monitor the government's cross to end the crack down on protesters from syria to egypt. forget the past and move forward. that's what egypt urged after days of deadly clashes there. many don't want to hear it. today tens of thousands of protesters returned to tahrir square to denounce the deadly crack down. you can see the pictures and the country's military has been in power since the ousting of the former dictator in february. that has egyptians outraged saying the transition to democratic rule is taking way too long. nbc news foreign correspondent is joining me live from cairo there. what is the scene like right now? >> craig, the numbers are beginning to drop down a little bit. still a few thousand people here behind me hung up the flag around the entire circle. it's become iconic th
of observers into syria this morning a day after government forces there allegedly killed more than 100 people. this is video of another recent turmoil that came in the streets of syria. activists are calling the resents violence, quote, an organized massacre. they say troops loyal to president assad fired rockets and bombs into a valley where civilians fled from a village before soldiers moved in. the white house says it is deeply disturbed by the reports. human rights group calls these the bloodiest in the nine-month crackdown against opposition protesters. >>> in iraq this morning a wave of violence killed at least 57 people in the capital. health officials say an additional 200 people were wounded. the coordinated attacks make up the worst violence to hit bagdad in months, coming amid a fresh political crisis in the country where the shia led government is accusing the sunni vice president of running a hit squad to target officials. >>> hundred dreesds of european banks get a massive $639 billion loan in an effort to bring badly needed relief to the struggling financial system. let's take
league delegation expected to visit three more cities in syria today, although activists say the observers' presence in the country has not stopped the violent crackdown by government forces there. opposition leaders criticizing the arab league mission after its leader, a former sudanese intelligence officer, said he witnessed "nothing frightening on the ground." the united nations says 5,000 people have been killed in syria since march. >>> the united states navy is pushing back against threats made by iran to close a critical waterway in the persian gulf that carries 15 million barrels of oil every day. iranian officials are furious over a planned oil embargo by the west. in retaliation, they say they will cut off access to the strait of hormuz, where one-third of the world's energy supply isç transported. the state department is downplaying the rhetoric with some analysts suggesting iran would just be crippling its own economy with that move. still, the pentagon not taking the threat lightly. the spokesman there said any interference with the shipping lanes will "not be
disruption will not be tolerated." >>> elsewhere, even with outside monitors on the ground in syria now, reports of deadly, new violence continue to emerge. activists claim government troops have killed nearly 40 people in just two days since theç monitors arrived. and yesterday, some of those monitors had to take cover themselves. neil connery of our english broadcast partner itn shows us the dramatic images. >> reporter: gunfire that goes through the streets of homs. this video shows what reportedly happened when protesters tried to reach the arab league visiting the city, but observers saw none of this to begin with. they also didn't see this. syrian forces opening fire on protesters. and yet, the head of the arab league mission describes the situation as reassuring. such is the anger here, protesters placed the dead body of a 5-year-old boy on an arab league car. they say he was shot in the back by syrian forces. it's impossible to independently verify their claim. but today, some observers were taken to a mosque where ahmed's body lay. they took photographs and spoke to some of t
of that. let's talk about syria for a moment. at least six people killed in violent clashes between the government and anti-government forces there. any indication at this point that syria's president is going to step down at some point soon? >> no, not at all. he seems to be determined to fight it out. and although the arab league has now sent monitors into syria, to try to get firsthand information of what's going on, the foreign media is not allowed. all we're seeing is youtube videos and cell phone pictures that have been posted online. those monitors are going to get a sense of what's going on in the country. the fact that his forces continue to kill people while the monitors arei% the country. that says that he's not about to be backing down, he wants to go all the way. >> bobby ghosh, thank you, sir. happy new year. >> and to you. >>> rick perry suing virginia to get on the state's primary ballot. does his legal challenge stand a chance in court? >>> why a judge ruled the mexican american studies program in one school district is illegal. >>> and which tom hanks film is now a
-- >> the question is, does it add up, does it add up to it. i want to, while you're here, i want to turn to syria for a minute. the white house has again renewed its call for syrian president, bashar al assad, to step down. he's flagrantly, the white house said, he's flagrantly committed a possible massacre in a village. i feel like every time i get the privilege of hosting this show, we talk about syria and people say, well, it's an uncertain situation, we don't know where it goes. at what point do we reach a tipping point? are we close to it or are we not? >> i think the problem we've all had with the so-called arab spring, is we thought it was going to be fast and furious, leading to the outcome that a lot of people demonstrating wanted. we've seen in egypt, it has not been as rosy as we initially thought it was going to be. and certainly in syria, it's taken time. obviously for people who are were being killed, demonstrating, having their friends and family killed, the change cannot happen enough. but this situation is very messy and very complicated. >> i think our tendency in the world we'r
. they suspended syria's membership only iraq and leb ton abstained. they are close to iran and syria is close to iran. yesterday they tried to paper over -- >> they said it's right on the border. not going to touch it. what's the real -- what is the real reason behind it? >> the real reason is maliki personally and his government more broadly, they have very close ties to iran. iran, syria is iran's closest arab ally. >> is iraq second? >> yes. yeah it is. >> and that seems to be -- obviously, it's a huge concern among a number of more conservative national security folks in this country. how much influence does iran have inside iraq these days and do they have more than the united states? >> the second question, yes, they do. they have a lot of influence -- >> the united states has more financial influence, right? the united states is financially made that country -- kept it afloat, has it not? >> we spent $30 billion, $40 billion within iraq but that money is over. we're not doing rebuilding projects or funding things. iran is. they are building banks, hotels. their stuff is growing. our st
at walmart. >>> grim pictures out of syria today. at least 40 people are dead after twin suicide car bombings erupted in the capital city of damascus. syrian state television reported the bombs targeted strategic security and intelligence buildings. the blasts come one day after an arab league team arrived to hold the syrian government to their promise to end a brutal crackdown on protesters. >>> elsewhere in the region today, take a live look at these pictures as thousands of people flood into egypt's tahrir square. they're denouncing the military's brutal crackdown on protesters, particularly on women, who have been brutalized and dragged through the streets. for more on this, i'm joined now by iman muhidin. want to ask you, in syria, the government is saying the bombings were the work of al qaeda. has that been substantiated and is that true? >> well, luke, good morning, first of all, it is very difficult to substantiate any of those claims, particularly because the syrian government bans foreign journalists from going into syria. the syrian government consistently portrayed all the acts o
? >>> plus, could twin suicide bombings in syria be the work of al qaeda? and happy holidays on wall street. holiday shoppers give the struggling economy a boost. >>> good day, i'm luke russert live in washington. the dramatic standoff over the payroll tax cut ended with the we werer shortly after 10:00 this morning when given the chance to object to the senate bill freshman house republicans kept quiet and let it pass. earlier today senate majority leader harry reid couldn't help taking a jab at the conservatives who had led the fight. >> i hope this congress has had a very good learning experience, especially those who are newer to this body. everything we do around here does not have to wind up in a fight. >> nbc's mike joins us from the white house and mike is nbc's political director. mike, give me the state of play. a little bit less to this press, is he going to take a little victory lap before his trip to a way we? >> i think so. he's going to punctuate the events from the week. it started with president obama on the defensive. he appeared in the briefing room just last saturday aft
in syria with reports of more than 100 deaths over the past two days. including dozens of defectors from president bashar al assad forces. amateur video shows what is to be the result of bloody clashes between protesters and government forces in and around damascus. this week's surge in violence is believed to be a so-called last push by assad's regime before arab league monitors arrive in that country. >>> in what's called the biggest women's demonstration in cairo, demanding the government military step down. marchers carried a photo of a woman whose clothes were partially pulled off by troops as a symbol of their outrage over the brutal treatment of female protesters. some 10,000 chanting women carried signs, turned out for the massive march throughout downtown cairo. this as 14 people were reportedly killed during a fifth day of clashes between protesters and military forces. >>> back here at home, it may not officially be winter yet but a blistering snowstorm that plowed through the southwest and southern plains was a bitter reminder of what's in store over the next few months. at l
're seeing fresh rtprotest today in syria. are we going to look back in 10 or 20 years and say that 2011 was a turning point or just a rebellion? >> 2011 was definitely a turning point. i think less what we'll remember it for was the killings but where people stood up and said we want our dignity, we want self-government, and we're willing to die to get it. and you're continuing to see that in syria today, you saw it all year, and you also saw a decisive rejection that finally everybody could understand. a decisive rejection of osama bin laden's ideology of change through violent islamism, and instead, a desire for change in forms that should look very familiar to americans. >> and to just go for one second, 2011 was the official end of the war in iraq, and in terms of troops, the beginning of drawing down in afghanistan. are these changes of name only, changes in doctrine, or are these wars rah s really coming end? >> these wars which the u.s. started are coming to an end. and the peace of doctrine that's changing dramatically is the idea that you're going to have hundreds of thousands
? >> well, iraq has adversaries there for whom the f-16s might prevent some attacks. syria is a great example, iran is a great example. they're not going to be the most sophisticated ones, they won't be able to attack israel or anything like that, but we're probably going to sell them to them, $10 billion worth. >> to a fragile government. >> yeah, separate issue altogether. and we have to have trainers there to make sure they're maintained properly and so on. it's a difficult situation, but i think we're going to do it. >> thank you so much. >> you bet. >>> a christmas tragedy in connecticut. a massive fire takes the lives of five people including three children. >>> and 2011 left congress bruised and battered. what lessons can lawmakers take forward to 2012? with the capital one venture card we get double miles on every purchase. dinner! [ garth ] we get double miles every time we use our card. and since double miles add up fast, we can bring the whole gang! it's hard to beat double miles! i want a mace, a sword, a... oww! [ male announcer ] get the venture card from capital one and
embargo on syria which is going through horrendous violence right now. that having a really deep effect on the syrian government's ability to do business. if syria is aa team, iran is the major leagues. they control much more of the world oil market and european countries would suffer if their governments go through with this. that's a very serious political consideration. back here in washington, the american economy will suffer if we put crippling sanctions on iran that raise gas prices and the obama administration doesn't trust the average voter is going to draw the distinction between the benefits of delaying iran's nuclear program and the higher prices at the gas tank. it's a tough one to explain and a discussion they don't want to have heading into their presidential election. it's not a good idea for them. >> jeff rogin for foreign policy magazine, thanks for being here. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we'll say right before christmas, richard engel came by the news meeting for our show and the question from the floor of our news meeting was richard, as we're all going home for c
of exiled iraqis, but i did take that position on syria and egypt, and you are with a situation where you have people fighting for the very values we say we are standing for, and you say we will not help you because that would mean our betraying our values of not wanting to kill, we fought for our own liberty. i agree that you have to understand how serious the decision is, and i think for the united states to say that we will not use force in defense of our values or to support others carrying our values -- >> i think america's values are kind of twisted, those of us that live in the country, there's not one single thread of value that we can wrap ourselves around. there's a little bit of hypocrisy when we talk about american values when you look at what happens across the world in the things we have done in the name of our values. the moral stand that you want to take and maybe mr. hitchens wanted to take -- >> you mean there are not values we stand for -- >> i think we're hypocritical. we pick and choose. we talk about what about sudan and somalia, and all the other countries where peo
, of course. as recently as 2007 there was a north korean nuclear plant in syria that was taken out. i mean, so he was profoundly important around the world. he played that nuclear card. i actually met him when i traveled there in 2000. that was a period where he had reached out to japan to south korea then in october of 2000, just before the end of the clinton years, there was that summit in pyongyang and the extraordinary meetings, and now the deputy secretary state found him to be more credible than they expected. they were expecting this bizarre figure in high heels with a poofed up hair. he's very short, i should tell you, having gone through the receiving line with him when we were all greeted at the guest house there. >> right. >> but he actually had serious meetings with them. the interesting thing is, that there are two american diplomats in beijing today. they were to meet with their north korean counterparts. this was the first step of something that was to be announced as early as today or later this week. it was supposed to be the food aid to north korea and the possibility of
. obviously in syria. but what is your take on what has happened in iraq over the past 48 hours since u.s. troops moved out? >> we are beginning to face the reality of what we have accomplished. namely we have destabilized iraq. we have destroyed it as a state. we have reignited sectarian conflicts, we have contributed to ethnic distinctions between the kurds and the iraqis. we have a problem on our hands, which we didn't solve by war. and which we cannot resolve anymore because we can't continue the war indefinitely. it's a contribution to greater middle eastern instability. >> you have long chided those who were arrogant enough to believe that every country across the globe wants to remake themselves in america's image. and i remember pulitzer prize winner a few years back making the suggestion to you and you laughing him off the set. is this not yet another example after eight years, after 4,000 plus deaths, after $1 trillion invested in iraq, we leave and within 24 hours they revert to form? >> well, they revert to form which has preexisted. >> right. >> and you know, we're sort of
's happening in syria is another. and iraq has many, many challenges. >> i think he's in the position of, in effect, trying to sell to the world and the region and convince the world and the region that this exit is going to work. so for him to engage in the hypotheticals of "what if," doesn't make any sense, especially at this stage. surely he's in meetings that are filled with the "what ifs." and surely he has worries about those and contingency notions about what they're going to have to do if some of the worst "what ifs" occur. >> lawrence o'donnell, great to see you. thank you very much for sharing this time with us. we want to remind you "the last word with lawrence o'donnell" airs at 10:00 eastern right here on msnbc. we'll be right back. quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reas
plan is to go on to syria or go on to iran from afghanistan and from iraq. and and, of course, that was the plan of george bush and dick cheney, a plan that was put asunder that iraq turned badly in 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007. >> i think there are a lot of hard questions to ask about what we learned from the iraq war experience as a nation. the kind of things you were just mentioning there about the split between sieve civilian experience in the last ten years and what our military's experienced in the foremost, especially for those of us who are civilians, we have to think hard about that. one of the things i really don't understand, it's a wide open question to me, is how the experience of the iraq war changed republican politics. i feel like it's surprising to hear republican politicians all talking now as if it is 2005. as if nothing has happened that's any different than when the first few years of when the war started. do you understand how republicans may feel differently about war and peace and foreign policy than they did before the iraq war experience? >> the only way
. that is in syria with al bashir assad. you have a circumstance, every international norm, from refusing to protect diplomats, violating international agreements relating to nuclear arms and nuclear weapons, attempt to get nuclear weapons, to attempting to assassinate on foreign soil a diplomat. they've been continually marginalized. the biggest thing that's happened, the president has been able to unite the world including russia and china. in continuing to ostracize and to isolate iran. so the truth is, and i really mean this, rachel, the talk about the projection, the capacity of iraq to project power in the gulf is actually diminished. they are less feared. they are less -- they have less influence than they have had any time, i would argue, in the last 20 years. and there will be a relationship between iraq and iran because they have a very long border. they will trade. they should have a normal relationship. but they are not allies. remember, these are the guys that, in fact, fought against iran. even the shia in iraq found great difficulty with iran. you've seen a shia leader now who's the p
look out and see hussein gone, syria and iran under siege and the compelling lesson is that these are things central to their long-term survival, which is really their primary and exclusive focus. >> is their bargaining chip. you have a military background as well. p.j., is it likely that the military will have even more power under this regime? what do we know about this young man. >> i think there's been an evolution. now to kim jong eun, it's a collective leadership. it's not just about one guy. so the military does have a prominent role to play as do the elites that will surround kim jong-il. this transition will take months if not years and we'll see once they reemerge whether they're in the same place that they were last week or whether they're now in a much more conservative place. >> david, you're the nuclear expert, they've had tests that have fizzled. what is the level of sophisticate or their nuclear program? >> it's hard to figure out but i wouldn't surprised if they put a warhead on a missile and launched i. their program has moved forward. there's no do
. during the year the protester has voiced assent from the military leader and in egypt and syria and yemen and bahrain in the so-called arab spring. the protesters voiced apger oap the rigged elections in russia. and also the occupy wall street protests started in new york and spread across the country right here. >>> when jerry sandusky entered a plea of not guilty, there was anger on behalf of the accusers. earlier i asked his attorney joseph amendola if it was a deliberate pups f deliberate purpose for the prosecution, and he bristled at the idea. >> there was a lot of talk about the fact that you waived the right of jerry sandusky to the right of a hearing. i was told that you knew you would waive by monday night and is that the prosecution would dismiss the witnesses, and then you would pull the trigger, the bait and switch and ask to have the hearing anyway knowing that the prosecutors would not have the witnesses there? >> no, that is not the case at all. as a matter of fact, thomas, that would be unprofessional. i would never do that. >> so where does this leavelege prepared to tel
in syria finally. how the saudis react to all of this. they've not been happy with the united states for the past year, because of the way that we dispatched mubarak, and they said, you know, that's how you treat your friends, are you having a change at the top there? that has to be an important part of the debate in the next year. but my guess is that we won't hear very much about it, because people don't find a lot of political capital talking about that. >> just to pick up on one point there, there's a question that's hung over the iraq enterprise from day one and it's been this -- is iraq the way iraq is because saddam was the way saddam was? or was saddam the way saddam was because iraq was the way iraq was? is it a fractured, multisectarian country that could only be held together by an iron fist, first by saddam or residually by us? or is it not? we're going to get the answer to that question now. saddam's fist is gone, ours is gone, and the big question not just about iraq but all the arab springs is can they come together and write social contracts to live together in a way
. will this be under iran the way lebanon is under syria? >> reporter: iran's influence is already here. think of it this way. there are right now zero direct flights between the united states and iran. you have to go through dubai or several of the other countries. there are, on many days, 12, 15, 18 direct flights between iraq and iran. there are over 2 million iranians who come here every year. they invest here. when you walk around the country, most of the taxi cabs on the streets in baghdad these days come from iran. so iran's influence, democratically, culturally, politically, even, depending on who you ask, is already very significant in this country. some of that is positive. iraq can use the tourism. and just because pilgrims from iran are coming here to visit shiite religious sites doesn't mean they're taking over the country. but it certainly shows the amount of influence that they have. >> thank you very much, richard eng engel. take care in baghdad. >> reporter: you take care of yourself. >> now let's to "the washington post." author of "imperial life in the emerald city," about h
in syria? all of these things remain with question marks on them. it is from my view one of the most potentially dangerous and volatile times that we live in. >> how much of an intelligence loss do you think we've suffered because of the drone that crashed in iran? and why didn't we do something to blow it up? >> i really -- it's difficult to answer those questions but if you're asking me from my view of whether we lost a lot of intelligence, i suspect that's minimal. >> do you think we should have done something like others have suggested we should have bombed it even though it was on their territory, that we should have sent a stealth fighter in -- >> the reasons that are classified, that would be very difficult to do. >> senator, i know there's a lot of fighting right now on the hill. you in particular are concerned about agreements that are being forged that's would permit in the defense authorization bill would permit the indefinite detention of american citizens being held. you fought against it and the white house is willing to cut a deal. this is a deal between senators levin
. democratically the allies in iraq have won. they're los to the regime in syria. their allies in lebanon have gained strength politically. allies in the palestinian authority gained strength politically. it was under the bush administration where the iranians gained a tremendous amount of political strength throughout the middle east. this is him trying to deflect the fact he's the biggest reason why we have an iranian problem. >> conservatives are out there pushing the idea now that our military forces are out and there's contractors back there, of course, that's going to cost the taxpayers billions of dollars, that we really have to worry about an iranian invasion of iraq. what about that? >> well, that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard. the fact is the iranians have a very close relationship with nuri al maliki. he's a nationalist, yes, he has a relationship with the united states. it was, you know, nuri al maliki and muqtada al sadr have a close relationship with tehran also. we're leaving u.s. forces in kuwait to prevent it. second, it can't happen because essentially that would unde
for those insights and abuse. straight ahead, from north korea to iran, syria to china, what global hot zones pose the biggest risk in 2012? our specialist with the answer right after this. [ male announcer ] cranberry juice? wake up! ♪ that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm [ male announcer ] for half the calories -- plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8. so i used my citi thank you card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? we talked about getting a diamond. but with all the thank you points i've been earning... ♪ ...i flew us to the rock i really had in mind. ♪ [ male announcer ] the citi thank you card. earn points you can use for travel on any airline, with no blackout dates. >>> quite a spectacle in north korea today as the country bid a final, tearful and theatrical and not so spontaneous farewell to kim jong-il. son kim jong-un walked with his hand on the hearse and notably at his side for all of it, two men thought to be running the show behind the scenes, jong-un's uncle. more on the hot spots the u.s. needs to w
's an unfinished term. we have this heroic revolution being attempted in syria. a heroic revolution being attempted in bahrain. we have an unclear situation in libya. >> we had russia where there are protest movements. >> yeah. it's spreading upward. importantly, driven and supported by technology everywhere. the power that an individual has because of social media. you're seeing this in russia and china with, you know, the twitter feed is a revolutionary force against regime and the biggest country in the world. you have to be inspired by that. >> it should be noted was i think the number three runner up for person of the year. >> he should have been the choice. >> wasn't it you one year? >> me. it was actually alex wagner. no, it wasn't actually me. that's next year. let's move on to domestic politics. the scott walker recall campaign is 507,000 strong. i think they need to get 540,000 signatures by january 17th. >> but how many of those are mickey mouse and adolf hitler? there are controversies over the fake names they're allowing on the petitions. >> i think there is some question as to how leg
, not to mention additional disruptions from the kurds in the northwest with turkey and syria which has been at or near a boiling point for the duration of the year. washington and our country believes, and they are correct, we need a strong ally in that region. but critics say that ally will never be iraq. just look at the celebrations today in fallujah. they wanted u.s. troops gone years ago when the iraqis revolted against an allied force in the most intense urban battle that the u.s. military has been engaged in since the war in vietnam. here's how one iraqi political analyst described it to al jazeera. >> i think everyone lost this war. there is no winners there. >> we start today with two iraq war veterans, john soltz who only recently returned from another tour in iraq to chair his position at matt ho, a former marine corps captain and state department official who serves as a senior fellow at the center for international policy. i have learned much from both of these men, and they have a perspective that those of us who have not been to these wars simply could never hav
% of the vote, where the islamist party is strong in libya and if president assad in syria goes they will do well, too. this reflects a broader trend in the region where you find conservative religious values taking hold. people are nervous about what comes next, and they look at their faith, their culture for guidance and it reflects the kin of general tendency among particularly egyptians themselves. >> our correspondent was talking about the salafist party and they came in second with 25% of the vote. this is an ultra conservative party which opposes interest bearing loans and xhol and there's a prohibition of christian or womb in leadership rolls. do you see a potential coalition between this extreme party producing what i think would appear to be a highly tradition al islam ic government? >> this is a concern. what may happen elsewhere is there's a split among the muslim islamist. the muslim brotherhood didn't intend to form a political coalition with ultra conservatives. they fall on different places and have different visions about what the future of egypt will look like. so the big q
it in syria, the occupy movement and seen it in egypt, that these populations are now armed with cell phone cameras and access to youtube, and that has changed everything for people in power, so moving forward, again, new world order in 2012. >> yes. >> there is hope, dylan. >> and it goes to, jonathan, the remarkable gut punch that the -- that the global visibility represents when people engage in this level of abuse. >> right, and -- and when they -- before they can engage in this level of abuse, as imogen was just saying, and no one would see it, the government's word versus the opposition's word, but when you have people instantaneously showing via video, via picture on youtube, twitter, facebook, exactly what's happening as it's happening, it's very difficult for governments to shade the truth or even lie, and then they have to be immediately responsive to -- not only to the international community but to -- but to an empowered populace that quite frankly has had enough. >> well, it's essentially a civil rights movement, if you will, that starts with women in egypt, and, i mean, that's
the arab spring. syria, fundamentally, has lost control of its population thanks to camera phones and a population with access to youtube. so fundamentally, it is the human impact. and because we now live in this new society, as it were, there is hope, as we're hearing. >> and right, what's missing from that, then it goes to what you talk about on a conservative narrative, goes to what you talk about from an economic narrative, and goes to what you talk about from a social narrative. you must take responsibility for your own life, whatever that life might be. and that's one of those thing that's sort of -- and i don't mean that in the right wing or left wing sense of -- i'm just saying that we exist and get to make decisions and those decisions impact things. the panel stays. after this, the winter of our discontent as governments around the globe continue to boil over, our specialist joins the conversation after this. [ male announcer ] tom's discovering that living healthy can be fun. see? he's taking his vitamins. new one a day vitacraves plus omega-3 dha is a complete multivit
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